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		<title>By: Melian</title>
		<link>http://learningtheworld.eu/2008/captioning-youtube-with-dfxp/comment-page-1/#comment-37694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hi!!!
Anyone know how to display text plus icons using DFXP??&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wendy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!!!
Anyone know how to display text plus icons using DFXP??</p>

<p>Wendy</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Kliehm</title>
		<link>http://learningtheworld.eu/2008/captioning-youtube-with-dfxp/comment-page-1/#comment-36662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kliehm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-36660&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CC&lt;/a&gt;, YouTube &lt;a href=&quot;http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=100077&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;says&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=100077&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although you can upload your captions/subtitles in any format, only supported formats will be displayed properly on the playback page.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#8217;t tried it recently, but the text implies it might or might not work&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-36660" rel="nofollow">CC</a>, YouTube <a href="http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=100077" rel="nofollow">says</a>:</p>

<blockquote cite="http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=100077"><p>Although you can upload your captions/subtitles in any format, only supported formats will be displayed properly on the playback page.</p></blockquote>

<p>I haven&rsquo;t tried it recently, but the text implies it might or might not work&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Has anyone recently &lt;em&gt;tried&lt;/em&gt; uploading a DFXP file to YouTube?  It seems to accept it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone recently <em>tried</em> uploading a DFXP file to YouTube?  It seems to accept it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Putz</title>
		<link>http://learningtheworld.eu/2008/captioning-youtube-with-dfxp/comment-page-1/#comment-35862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Putz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Just wanted to pop in here and say &quot;thanks&quot; for all your efforts in making the web accessible.  Nothing is more frustrating to me than to come across a video, audio or podcast that I want to access and having the door slam shut.  I look forward to the day when everything, everywhere on the &#039;net is accessible.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to pop in here and say &#8220;thanks&#8221; for all your efforts in making the web accessible.  Nothing is more frustrating to me than to come across a video, audio or podcast that I want to access and having the door slam shut.  I look forward to the day when everything, everywhere on the &#8216;net is accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
		<link>http://learningtheworld.eu/2008/captioning-youtube-with-dfxp/comment-page-1/#comment-34736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;the .srt files for subtitles used in movies you can get from &#8220;the dark side of the net&#8221; are dead simple. Online video players would just need to parse the text according to the timestamp&#160;&#8212; as desktop video players already do (VLC, QuickTime player, etc)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the .srt files for subtitles used in movies you can get from &ldquo;the dark side of the net&rdquo; are dead simple. Online video players would just need to parse the text according to the timestamp&nbsp;&mdash; as desktop video players already do (VLC, QuickTime player, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Javier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The editor at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tubecaption.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TubeCaption&lt;/a&gt; is completely in Javascript.
TubeCaption allows users to add captions to any YouTube video. It uses a timeline with tracks were you can add your captions as if you were using software like adobe premier. The editor is all in javascript only the player is in flash.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Check it out and let us know what you think.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The editor at <a href="http://tubecaption.com" rel="nofollow">TubeCaption</a> is completely in Javascript.
TubeCaption allows users to add captions to any YouTube video. It uses a timeline with tracks were you can add your captions as if you were using software like adobe premier. The editor is all in javascript only the player is in flash.</p>

<p>Check it out and let us know what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Excellent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I  Voted!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.</p>

<p>I  Voted!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shackleton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Shackleton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thank you for this post, Martin. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am with you 100% on the idea of crowdsourcing this functionality. Think wikipedia collaboration for accessifying that part of the web that requires the human touch. IBM&#039;s Social Accessibility Project seems to be heading in this direction for providing needed ALT-text for images (http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/socialaccessibility/). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that although much could be accomplished by getting the key organizations onboard (YouTube, Google), they shouldn&#039;t, and don&#039;t need to be, barriers to this effort. Don, you seem to be suggesting a way that would enable the independent development of the video and captioning (design-time) in a way that could integrate during run-time. I think that&#039;s the key. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have there been any developments since you made this post Martin? I&#039;d like to explore hosting a way for volunteers to provide captions, and users to be able to request and enjoy captioned videos.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bill&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post, Martin. </p>

<p>I am with you 100% on the idea of crowdsourcing this functionality. Think wikipedia collaboration for accessifying that part of the web that requires the human touch. IBM&#8217;s Social Accessibility Project seems to be heading in this direction for providing needed ALT-text for images (<a href="http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/socialaccessibility/" rel="nofollow">http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/socialaccessibility/</a>). </p>

<p>I think that although much could be accomplished by getting the key organizations onboard (YouTube, Google), they shouldn&#8217;t, and don&#8217;t need to be, barriers to this effort. Don, you seem to be suggesting a way that would enable the independent development of the video and captioning (design-time) in a way that could integrate during run-time. I think that&#8217;s the key. </p>

<p>Have there been any developments since you made this post Martin? I&#8217;d like to explore hosting a way for volunteers to provide captions, and users to be able to request and enjoy captioned videos.</p>

<p>Cheers</p>

<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Don Rideaux-Crenshaw</title>
		<link>http://learningtheworld.eu/2008/captioning-youtube-with-dfxp/comment-page-1/#comment-34312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Rideaux-Crenshaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m working in my spare time on creating a dfxp parser and tying it into the Google API to create a player that can read the dfxp file, get the timecode from the api and display the text in an &quot;open caption&quot; box.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In concept it&#039;s pretty simple. Use javascript to read the captioning text and begin/end times into an array. Grab the playhead position, search the array and use innerHTML on a span to display the caption text associated with the current time. Style information could also be incorporated. I&#039;ve built similar things in the past in actionscript as part of custom flash video players. In that case, I wrote my own XML data island so I could focus on solving the problem at hand, not on a more general approach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the project comes to fruition, I&#039;ll make the javascript widely available. Then yes, anyone could embed a YouTube video on their site, point the script at their dfxp file, and be rocking and rolling. Alternative dfxp files could give &quot;subtitles&quot; in alternative languages, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As time permits, I&#039;m taking the first step learning how to parse the dfxp and building the parser. Anyone with a javascript dxfp parser they&#039;d like to donate to the cause, email me at dgcrenshaw at comcast dot net. Once I get a little traction on this project, I&#039;ll put a page up on my site to support it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working in my spare time on creating a dfxp parser and tying it into the Google API to create a player that can read the dfxp file, get the timecode from the api and display the text in an &#8220;open caption&#8221; box.</p>

<p>In concept it&#8217;s pretty simple. Use javascript to read the captioning text and begin/end times into an array. Grab the playhead position, search the array and use innerHTML on a span to display the caption text associated with the current time. Style information could also be incorporated. I&#8217;ve built similar things in the past in actionscript as part of custom flash video players. In that case, I wrote my own XML data island so I could focus on solving the problem at hand, not on a more general approach.</p>

<p>If the project comes to fruition, I&#8217;ll make the javascript widely available. Then yes, anyone could embed a YouTube video on their site, point the script at their dfxp file, and be rocking and rolling. Alternative dfxp files could give &#8220;subtitles&#8221; in alternative languages, etc.</p>

<p>As time permits, I&#8217;m taking the first step learning how to parse the dfxp and building the parser. Anyone with a javascript dxfp parser they&#8217;d like to donate to the cause, email me at dgcrenshaw at comcast dot net. Once I get a little traction on this project, I&#8217;ll put a page up on my site to support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Kliehm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kliehm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;OK, I get what&#8217;s the advantage of the Google API concerning third party players. Nevertheless Google or Yahoo could pimp &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; players, and millions of users would benefit from it. That&#8217;s my whole suggestion. ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I get what&rsquo;s the advantage of the Google API concerning third party players. Nevertheless Google or Yahoo could pimp <em>their</em> players, and millions of users would benefit from it. That&rsquo;s my whole suggestion. <img src="http://learningtheworld.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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